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THE PROMPT: what would a pairing of Mockingbird and Firekeeper's look like in an ELA classroom? In what ways would the books compliment each other? Challenge each other? How could you use that to engage students in both texts? THE CLASS: our classroom this week is about the grade level when you would read TKAM: a ninth grade class at Sharon High School. If you want to get a sense of the school and its students, you can check out the school’s site. You can check out the demographic stats for the school here as well as stuff about MCAS scores and other performance indicators.
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Megan Keller
10/24/2022 02:09:59 pm
When beginning to look at the complexities within the novels The Firekeepers Daughter and To Kill A Mockingbird, it is evident that both the novels discuss race. In a ninth-grade setting, the student population should be mature enough to handle these types of themes. It is up to me as the educator to debrief my students on these themes and I would do so by giving the students an excerpt from each novel before beginning the entirety of the piece. I feel that the short excerpt should discuss race and how certain characters are portrayed or treated due to their race being different than the commonality of the white male from historic times. I want the students to then take five to ten minutes in which the whole class will discuss the themes they recognized from the short excerpts. From there, I will introduce the novels and have students read both works over a period of time. Students should be able to recognize the books complement each other through the theme of race and the complexities surrounding race. For example, in TKAM race is portrayed through Tom Robinson being shot seventeen times by running away from the police while in The Firekeepers Daughter, Daunis struggles with her own personal identity. These differences in character development are important to recognize while still noticing that the underlying theme here is race. I feel that both of these texts can be used to accentuate the horrific state of American culture in the past and how racial injustice can affect anyone, regardless of status. The lessons from these novels are something students will be able to take with them as they travel through the rest of high school.
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Megan Moore
10/25/2022 10:14:57 am
Hi Megan, I really like your idea of having students read short passages from each novel to get a feel for the tonal and thematic differences. That's a great way to get their minds thinking in the right direction that I hadn't thought of! You might need to do a bit more legwork to get students to recognize the nuanced differences between the novels, but I think opening the unit with a direct comparison will set the tone for the rest of the unit. One thing I think is very important is to prepare students for the more personal struggles of Daunis in "Firekeeper's Daughter." It might be worthwhile to ask them to compare Daunis's struggles to Scout's in order to dramatically show the different ways that race and racism directly affect the two main characters.
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Patricia Diaz
11/1/2022 07:47:21 pm
Hi Megan,
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Jessica Sweeney
12/23/2022 03:24:17 pm
Hi Megan! I really appreciate how you would help students develop an understanding of racial inequity in the book. Racism, while horrific in cases like TKAM, are more covert in other settings and addressing how past history affects our current history is a great think to do with students. Something that I talked about in my post which would fit in nicely with your ideas is talking who gets to tell their own stories. Duanis gets to articulate her own experience with this while Tom does not.
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Meaghan Cook
10/24/2022 02:16:28 pm
I believe the pairing of To Kill A Mockingbird (TKAM) and Firekeeper’s Daughter (FKD) would be incredibly effective in a high school English class. The novels both deal with racism, injustice, and family. The most essential difference between the two novels is that TKAM is a novel written by and about a white character whereas FKD is written by and about an Indigenous woman. The firsthand accounts we get in FKD are essential to understanding the story from a perspective that is lacking in TKAM. The mistrust in law enforcement featured heavily in FKD is a direct contrast to the adoration and hero worship of Atticus Finch in TKAM. Additionally, the pairing of these novels would bridge the gap between the past and the present, from classic literature to contemporary. While it is significantly longer, FKD would be an easier sell to modern high school students because the novel also features a romantic love interest, as well as a more modern story involving a large circle of friends. You could engage the sports lover with the hockey angle. Engage a mystery reader with the murder and investigation plot line. To engage the students in both texts, I would encourage them to compare and contrast throughout, highlighting the similar themes while contrasting the conflicting messages. I would ask each student to engage in character studies of Scout and Daunis, highlighting not only the obvious differences between the two but also their similarities. Both have experienced loss, both experience and despair in the failure of the justice system, and both place a significant value on their family and trusted friends. What we could take away from this lesson is that while we may all walk through life differently, there are far more things that we can find in common than we can find different.
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celeste barbosa
10/25/2022 01:57:25 pm
Hi Meaghan!
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Megan Keller
10/28/2022 09:48:58 am
Hi Meaghan!
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Nicole Shepard
10/31/2022 08:56:15 am
Hi Meghan!
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Megan Moore
10/24/2022 03:58:55 pm
In the previous discussion board about "To Kill a Mockingbird," I talked about how I would approach teaching the novel in a high school classroom and my interest in pairing the novel with James Baldwin's "If Beale Street Could Talk." While I would still approach TKAM from a more historical perspective and use it to discuss how privilege and changing ideals are reflected through literature, I could definitely use "Firekeeper's Daughter" as the complimentary novel. I think that the novels are inherently complimentary and challenging to one another. Both discuss racism from the perspective of young women, detail some sort of legal issue, and feature the main characters' friends and family as important moral teachers.
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Mary Viera
11/5/2022 11:39:37 am
Hi Megan! I think teaching Firekeeper would show how problematic TKAM is and would perhaps be a more effective way to show it to students. Firekeeper is more relevant in that it was published more recently and has an author who is a member of the Ojibwe community. My analysis was focused more on the characters and stories themselves, however, I think you bring up another really important piece that would have to be brought into the classroom. The context that these stories came into being is something that students should be aware of. Looking at who the author is, what credibility they have to be telling these stories, etc. are questions that might be interesting to ask students.
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celeste barbosa
10/25/2022 01:49:49 pm
When looking at To Kill a Mockingbird and The Firekeeper’s Daughter, there is one consistent theme and that is racism. The two novels come from different time periods, but they both provide a different perspective on racism. In a classroom, the best way to have students engage with both texts is through comparison and contrasting. I would first introduce To Kill a Mockingbird as its own unit, that covers symbolism and characterization while discussing the underlying racism in the novel. Students will look at the characters in TKAM and how they add to the meaning of the book, while also noting the symbols and how they add to the meaning of the book. There would be a final short paper written about the book to highlight the use of symbolism in the novel, but it will also provide the students with a general understanding and remembrance of the novel before moving on.
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Sydney Blair
10/26/2022 06:53:49 pm
Hi Celeste,
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Megan Keller
10/28/2022 09:42:23 am
Hi Celeste!
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Alexa Delling
10/26/2022 08:30:08 am
In both To Kill A Mockingbird and The Firekeeper’s Daughter, it is evident race plays a large role in both novels but also is discussed in differing ways. It would be worth analyzing the differences between someone like Atticus Finch and Daunis Fontaine since both characters analyze race very differently as well as race means something different to both of them. Atticus in the time period is believed to have the upper hand since he is a white man in society and promotes racism in which the world around him is full of racism towards the black community. For someone like Daunis, she is fighting between two worlds in which her mother’s side of the family is white and her father’s side is Native. Daunis is a young girl attempting to find herself in this in between world and discover her true identity. The harsh difference between the two characters is that Atticus is a grown man and a father and even though he may think he is “doing justice” by defending a black man in court, his racist mind and racist surroundings still come to fruition throughout the novel and within the trial. Atticus has never known what it was like to be undermined due to his race because a white man did and does not face the challenges of black men and women. Whereas someone like Daunis is this young girl trying to find herself in a confusing and difficult world as she is also forced to hide her identity when going undercover for the FBI investigation. Another aspect of both stories would be the idea of community and how, in different ways, both novels show differing communities and how they either come together or turn against one another. I would have the students think about what community they belong to whether that be the town they’re from or a community among their races. What do you do to help your community? What have you done to not help your community? Also, what are these characters doing to either help or neglect their communities? Students could indeed find a lot of differences among these novels as well as learn about different races and what they face in these novels.
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Sydney Blair
10/26/2022 06:50:03 pm
After reading both TKAM and Firekeepers Daughter, I could definitely understand how the two could be paired together. Both of these stories tell tales of injustices due to race and culture. The topics that both of these novels present are appropriate for a ninth-grade classroom, especially as so many of these topics can be related back to the real world injustices they are being exposed to in the world today. Not only are both of these stories covering similar concepts, they are also being told through the eyes of a young woman. While Scout is much younger that Daunis, they both tell their stories from a prospective of innocence and hope. I feel that there could be a lot done with these texts in a classroom setting. One of the ways I would approach this topic is determine the similarities and differences between the two texts. One of the differences is that although both narrators are young female girls, one is being told by a white girl (Scout), while the other is being told by a girl of mixed heritage (Daunis). Daunis has emotion, blood, and heritage to connect her to her community and these injustices. Meanwhile, Scout cannot relate to Tom Robinson as she has never been a person of color. I think that prompting students to compare and contrast the different points of view between Scout and Daunis could create a lot of good conversation from the class. Asking them to think about how these two perspectives and their race play a role in this story can make students think deeper than just a typical vend-diagram like assignment. I also feel as though this idea of perspective can open up conversations about the real world and issues that are occurring in today’s modern times. These ideas that these novels and conversations bring up can hopefully help students grow and learn just as the main protagonists in these novels did.
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Chloe Tavernier
10/29/2022 12:26:25 pm
Hi Sydney,
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Jenivieve
10/31/2022 07:28:09 am
Hi there Sydney,
Allie Gallahue
10/30/2022 10:51:47 am
Hi Sydney!
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Adam Fernandes
10/27/2022 11:59:15 am
When the novels' dynamic nature is examined, it is evident that both narratives recognize and confront race. The ninth-grade student population should be capable of comprehending such notions. It is my responsibility as a teacher to educate my students on these themes, and I would do so by reading two chapters from each novel before beginning any discussion. Once I have finished reading, I would then give each student two other chapters to close read, making them take notes as they do so. By having them take notes on how racism and race are portrayed in both novels, I would put the students in small groups based on what they discovered.
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Megan Keller
10/28/2022 09:46:00 am
Hi Adam!
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Chloe Tavernier
10/29/2022 12:16:38 pm
Now after having read both YA novels, it is evident that pairing both To Kill A Mockingbird and The FireKeeper's Daughter would make for an effective curriculum plan. Despite the stark difference in time frame, setting, and characters, both novels share incredibly dynamic and intricate complexities that greatly complement and also challenge each other, especially in terms of their established themes. The most prominent and consistent being racism and that stereotypical prejudices and disparaging injustices that derive from it. While these two novels focus on different racial populations, the inherent turmoil incited by discrimination and racism is still applicable and palpable nonetheless. Both of these novels do undoubtedly share distinct similarities, they also challenge each other in terms of the approach and presentation of these meaningful topics. In TKAM, the perspective did not derive directly from the disparaged and discriminated people, it was instead firmly fixated on the perspective of both Scout and Atticus. Thus contrasts in The FireKeeper's Daughter, as the perspective is centered on Daunis, and the persistent unrest that she experiences due to her precarious identity crisis. Daunis does not feel like she truly belongs to either community, to either of her partial backgrounds. These complicated similarities and differences would make for a particularly fruitful conservation in a classroom. I would approach the subject by proposing the question of how does a community impact one's background and how is prejudice and injustice tackled between the two novels. How are they similar and how do they differ? I would also ask the students for their opinion on which novel presented better. Hopefully these thoughtful discussions can help bring to light the importance of understanding how corrosive damaging prejudice as well as malignant its intentions are.
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Allie Gallahue
10/30/2022 10:45:38 am
When analyzing both To Kill a Mockingbird and The Firekeeper’s Daughter, they are more alike than I would have considered at first. While TKAM deals with an external conflict about race and acceptance, The Firekeeper’s Daughter expresses more of an internal conflict about these topics. Daunis is coming to terms with her own racial identity, while Scout is beginning to learn about her privilege as a white person through the trial that showcases institutional racism. Both of these characters are learning more about their identity through different examples of race and the part that it plays in who they are and what is expected from them. I think that this could pose a really interesting essay topic about our connection and relation to figuring out who we are, as we have seen these characters looking for the same thing about themselves. However, we can also work as a class to figure out how their identities differ from each other, and use that to explain how everyone’s experience with finding their identities are different from each other. I think this would be really beneficial to the students because it will remind them that everyone reaches their highest potential in different ways and at different times, and that we can not be discouraged by the success of other people’s journeys. Scout was a child when she had to witness all of these issues in real time that helped her begin to realize her advantages and race, but Daunis is 18 years old and she is still struggling to find out who she is. Due to different life experiences, people will reach the same goal in different ways. I think that, by discussing this, students will realize that they are their own person and they will move at the pace they are ready for.
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Catie Mullen
11/1/2022 01:38:33 pm
Hi Allie,
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Jenivieve D'Andrea
10/30/2022 11:06:26 am
Pairing TKAM and TFKD for a ninth grade classroom in Sharon, MA would pose challenges. Teaching both of these novels as a unit on social justice would be a way to relate the texts to one another. In a town like Sharon, background information should be given to contextualize the racism in both stories. Being a high performing town, students in a ninth grade classroom in this district would really be able to push themselves to compare and contrast these two stories. While the book's topic of prejudice compliment each other, there are very clear distinctions that would need to be accounted for. For example, why does Lee write her novel? Why does Boulley do the same? What is different in their intentions? Doing comparative lessons on symbols, spirituality/religion, race, and identity would be a great way to have students study both texts. Students in this particular district will have to be pushed to understand the difference in motives between the two novels. For one, TKAM questions the justice system while still glorifying white saviorism through Atticus Finch. In TFKD, Daunis does not trust the FBI or any federal government with her tribe because she understands the impact of white men on a minorities chances in an already racist world. These books would compliment each other well if TKAM is read first, and hen TFKD. I suggest this because students will see the contrast between Scout and Daunis' thinking. After reading TFKD the students might be able to better understand the problematic nature of Lee's story.
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Jenivieve
10/30/2022 11:11:06 am
The rest of my response got cut off somehow. Anyways, I wanted to include that I have ideas on how to teach both stories successfully. If students keep character charts for both stories, they can track how identity develops in the story. A major part of both novels is noticing those surrounding the protagonist, and noting their beliefs whether public, or secretly held. Another fun activity I would have students do is keep a journal, either a secret squirrel journal, or a journal from Scout throughout the reading. This would help students understand the difference in the girl's points of view.
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Madelyn Ames
11/1/2022 09:17:09 am
I really like your idea to include character charts throughout your readings of both novels. I think that it would keep students both organized and engaged as they tackle two monster-texts. Your use of interactive activities is a great way to keep your students engaged and actively participating in lessons that it would be easy to disengage during simply because of the weight of the subject matter. Personally, I struggle with coming up with hands on activities for heavier texts and I really appreciated reading your take on it!
Samantha Tyrrell
11/1/2022 05:29:10 am
I think creating a lesson surrounding the use of symbols in the novels, particularly religious ones, is a great idea. The students would have a better grasp on the hidden meanings in the novels, particularly FKD. I also like how you touched on the white saviorism found in TKAM. There are many flaws in the novel, and FKD would complement it nicely by filling in the gaps.
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Lucienne Quirk
11/1/2022 12:50:29 pm
Hi Jenivieve,
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Nicole Shepard
10/31/2022 08:40:04 am
The two novels To Kill a Mockingbird and The Firekeeper’s Daughter could be paired together for a successful ELA unit on young adult literature, racism, and culture. As someone who had to read To Kill a Mockingbird in ninth grade and honestly dreaded reading it, I am positive that pairing this novel with a recent text (The Firekeeper’s Daughter) would enhance learning and engagement in the classroom. These two novels share similar themes but also contrast/challenge each other in a way that bring about insightful discussions to the classroom.
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Samantha Tyrrell
11/1/2022 05:25:28 am
I believe that together, To Kill a Mockingbird and Fire Keeper's Daughter create an effective pairing to teach race in today's classroom. TKAM is problematic in some ways in its dealings with race. It is a book about race by a white author, told in the perspective of a white character. We don't get the perspective of Tom Robinson, who is falsely accused of a serious crime. FKD fills in some gaps left by TKAM. FKD is written by an Indigenous author, and told from the perspective of an Indigenous person. The Indigenous characters in the book are given room to be fully formed human beings, flaws and all. Tom Robinson isn't given that same opportunity in TKAM.
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Madelyn Ames
11/1/2022 09:04:31 am
I think that there are several prominent reasons that To Kill a Mockingbird (TKM) and Firekeeper's Daughter (FKD) could be a great pairing in the classroom setting. I was struck by the difference in publishing dates, as FKD was published in 2021 and TKM was published in 1960. There is a significant gap between the publishing dates, yet not within the subject matter of the two novels. They both deal with race and injustice. I think it is important to note that TKM is written by a white author, whereas FKD is written by an Indigenous author, so it is necessary to note the different narrators.
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Lucienne Quirk
11/1/2022 12:44:26 pm
A pairing of TKAM and The Firekeeper’s Daughter would work in tandem to provide students how literary representations of race can be both detrimental and empowering– depending on the way people of color are written. On the one hand we have Tom Robinson and Calpurnia, the one being a sacrificial lamb for the enlightenment of white people, and the other acting mostly in servitude to her white family in order to highlight their tolerance and justness. On the other, we have Daunis, the narrative force and protagonist of Firekeeper’s Daughter. She stands as a prime example of a three dimensional character for the English classroom. Her race does not become her personality or represent how she should behave; rather, it acts as an important facet of her character. She is a STEM-minded investigator in a murder case, yet can also be witty and at times comical– it depends on the situation. She has fleshed out ties to her mother and her deceased father, longings for a romantic relationship, wishes to be tied more firmly to her Native culture– all of these wants and needs working together to create a person.
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Meaghan Cook
11/1/2022 03:23:10 pm
Hi Lucienne,
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Catie Mullen
11/1/2022 01:33:59 pm
The two texts, Firekeeper's Daughter and To Kill a Mockingbird, have connected themes that resonate with the Young Adult genre. These themes include innocence, family roles, community relations, and socioeconomic status. There are also three themes between these two books that are real issues our world continues to face today: women's rights, sexual assault, and racism/prejudice. These topics may be difficult for ninth graders to discuss, but are important and beneficial to talk about in an English Language Arts classroom. Students can have the freedom to explore these topics in whichever way feels comfortable to them (ie., through discussion posts, reading, podcasts, films, and class/small group discussions). Even though these two texts carry connected themes throughout the stories, they both take place in different time periods, which could make it hard for students to compare the similar themes between the two texts.
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Katie Rodrigues
11/1/2022 02:33:04 pm
Hi Catie,
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Katie Rodrigues
11/1/2022 02:28:14 pm
Both To Kill A Mockingbird and Firekeeper's Daughter both have similar themes that are discussed in each book. When teaching both of these books together, I would have the students compare how similar themes were tackled differently. In Firekeeper's Daughter the issue of racism is shown differently than it is in TKAM. Unlike TKAM, Daunis, the main character, faces the racism herself rather than watching someone else experience it. She is not fully accepted in either of her two worlds. Her white family does not fully accept her because of her tribal background and her tribal family does not fully accept her because of her white background. She is in this kind of limbo when it comes to her identity and where she belongs. In TKAM, we see racism through the eyes of a white little girl rather than the person who is actually experiencing the racism.
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Linnea Fawkes
11/1/2022 06:56:19 pm
Hi Katie,
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Patricia Diaz
11/1/2022 02:49:56 pm
I think that pairing To Kill a Mockingbird and Firekeeper’s Daughter would be effective in a classroom because both novels talk about issues that the other doesn’t and can provide multiple perspectives regarding issues such as race. For instance, To Kill a Mockingbird is centered around Tom Robinson who is a black man and because of such, it discusses issues about this population. On the other hand, Firekeeper’s Daughter focuses on Daunis who is half Native American, and because of that, it offers a perspective into this certain community.
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Linnea Fawkes
11/1/2022 06:51:41 pm
Hi Patricia,
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Linnea Fawkes
11/1/2022 06:46:38 pm
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Mary Viera
11/5/2022 10:17:34 am
There is a significant difference between Mockingbird and Firekeeper at first glance. They were published over 60 years apart and feature two very different main characters facing problems that characterize their generation. I think that these stark contrasts would make it interesting to teach them side by side to encourage students to make connections even when it seems there are none. The books compliment each other in that they are both sensitive about what it means to “grow up” and learn truths about your community. Even though Scout is very young and her father tries to shield her from the adult things going on in her community she still learns about the unfairness of reality. Growing up is inevitable and the picture perfect life she imagined of her neighborhood starts to disappear as she begins to learn more about the people in her community. Daunis experiences the same thing. She always had a great affinity for her tribal community and for her family, however, as she becomes involved in the FBI investigation she starts to learn things about people that makes her distrust them. Part of growing up is losing that childlike innocence (that Scout is able to demonstrate so well in the beginning of TKAM) and becoming aware that not everyone can be trusted. After Daunis has escaped from being kidnapped by her brother she then finds herself kidnapped yet again by her childhood hockey coach. She says, “I am no longer able to assess what people are or are not capable of” (443). These two books also challenge each other in that TKAM suggests justice is always restored naturally in the end with the death of Bob Ewell. In Firekeeper, however, justice is only partially restored as the Edwards are never held responsible for their crimes. Firekeeper suggests that those with money can escape punishment which is interesting held up against TKAM as Bob Ewell is poor and Scout’s family is a little more upper class than him.
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Jessica Sweeney
12/23/2022 03:24:45 pm
Pairing To Kill a Mockingbird in FireKeepers daughter would be a very interesting combination to open up the classroom for exploration of identity, storytelling, and inequity. These books, both featuring young women as their primary storytellers, could offer an interesting comparison in the lives of two very different people. Students could compare and contrast Scout and Daunis, and what struggles they are facing. Something I would also implement in my classroom is examining how the books handle cultural and racial inequality, and who gets to tell that story. I would ask my students which story is more effective than understanding the detriments of an unjust society, highlighting how Daunis gives us a holistic understanding of herself as a person, and not just a product of an unjust society. I would ask students to think about how Scout's version of the story helps, or does not help, us to understand Tom's identity in the story. I would engage students in compare and contrast activities while thinking about what kinds of conflicts are in the book, where the conflicts are similar and different, and how these books handle those conflicts. I would ask students to think about who is more effective in their experience with conflict. We would also talk about the nuance of coming of age and how it affects both of these young girls differently.
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